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Manston Airport
Consultative Committee (M.A.C.C)
Minutes of meeting held at 2.00pm on 15
December 2004 at Manston Village Hall
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Sir Alistair Hunter |
Chairman |
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Tessa Sherriff |
Secretary |
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Tony Freudmann |
PlaneStation Group Plc |
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Paul Tipple |
PlaneStation Group Plc |
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Alastair Robertson |
Kent International Airport-Manston |
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Mike Roberts |
Thanet District Council |
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Ron Flaherty |
Canterbury City Council |
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John Bragg |
Dover District Council |
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Sam Hodgson |
Acol Parish Council |
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John Garland |
Birchington Parish Council |
| Malcolm Kirkaldie |
Manston Airport Group |
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Peter Ditton |
Manston Parish Council |
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Robin Tapsell |
Monkton Parish Council |
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Bernard Clayson |
St Nicholas Parish Council |
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Martin Robinson |
KAPC Dover |
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Len Claisse |
KAPC Canterbury |
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Dennis Hart |
Ramsgate Residents |
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Bob Weaver |
Cliffsend Residents Association |
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Stuart McGoldrick |
EUjet |
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Ian Minter |
Thanet Chamber of Commerce |
| Richard Samuel |
C E Thanet District Council |
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Brian White |
Thanet District Council |
| Paul Martin |
Thanet District Council |
APOLOGIES Apologies
for absence were received from:
Leigh Herington (KCC); John Fullarton (KCC); Roger Latchford (TDC); Gerry Glover
(Minster PC) alternate Dennis Neville; Nick Cole (Monkton PC) alternate
Robin Tapsell.
- MINUTES
The Minutes of the
meeting held on 15th September 2004, having been previously
circulated, were accepted and signed by the Chairman as a true record.
- MATTERS ARISING
2.1 Item 5.1.5: Flight route maps. In
response to Len Claisse, Alastair Robertson stated that at present there was
no way of ensuring that aircraft adhere to the published routes.
2.2 Item 5.1.6: Tracking equipment. Cllr
Flaherty had been informed that the CAA had stated that the Airport was to
upgrade the radar system in January/February 2005 – not three years ahead as
had been advised at previous meetings. Alastair Robertson explained that the
upgrade referred to by the CAA was of an interim nature, which would indicate
only the height of aircraft. Cllr Dennis Hart felt it was important that the
Airport was equipped with a sophisticated monitoring system. There was a
system of potential borrowing available to local government and Cllr Hart
asked that Planestation discuss with TDC whether or not the Council could
assist Planestation with potential borrowing. Brian White felt sure that
officers would be instructed accordingly. Alastair Robertson pointed out that
the cost involved was £3.8m.
- BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT REPORT – EUjet Summer Schedule
3.1 Members were passed copies
of a letter dated 13th December 04, from Planestation to
Richard Samuel, Chief Executive of Thanet District Council. The letter
informed Mr Samuel of the Company’s plans to support EUjet’s summer
schedule of operations for the period April-September 2005. The letter
included the following points.
3.1.1 It had not been possible
to accommodate the entire schedule within the Airport’s normal operating
hours, and sixteen flights per week would arrive back at Manston after
2300hrs. With four exceptions, the late arrivals should land before
midnight. The ETA of the remaining four would be 0020, 0030, 0040, and 0055.
3.1.2 In deciding whether or not to support the schedule,
Planestation had given careful consideration to the terms of the S106
Agreement. At the time of the drafting of the Agreement, the potential for
night flying centred on the use of the Airport by dedicated cargo aircraft
with a Quota Count of 4 or more, and the S106 catered for irregular night
flights. The presumption that night flights would be by noisy cargo aircraft
was evidenced by those paragraphs where the emphasis was on only permitting
use by aircraft with a Quota Count less than 4.
3.1.3 Planestation believed that the commercial imperatives and
operating circumstances were justified given the overall long-term benefits
to the region of a successful scheduled passenger operation.
3.1.4 The fact that the Fokker 100 aircraft operated by EUjet had a
Quota Count of 0.5 meant that actual noise disturbance to residents was at
the absolute minimum of any noise disturbance scale.
3.1.5 The summer 2005 schedule envisaged no departures from Manston
between the hours of 2030 and 0600.
3.1.6 For these reasons, Planestation were consulting with Thanet
District Council on the following night-time flying policy:
3.1.7 "That where scheduling imperatives and slot allocations
so require, and where reasonable endeavours have been taken to avoid the
need for it, the Airport’s resident airline shall be permitted to land 12
aircraft per week between the hours of 2300 and 2400 and 4 aircraft per week
between the hours of 2400 and 0100 providing such aircraft have a Quota
Count of no more than 0.5".
3.1.8 It was regretted that the full six-month consultation
period was being curtailed, due to the airline industry’s slot allocation
cycle.
3.1.9 Bickerdike Allen were to be commissioned to undertake an
independent assessment of the impact of occasional night-time aircraft noise
on local communities, recognising that the approach used differed from that
used for daytime flights.
3.1.10 EUjet and the Airport Director would be invited to review
operating procedures with the aim of identifying measures that would
minimise arrival noise.
3.1.11 In the light of resulting recommendations, the Company would
consider what further noise amelioration and mitigation measures might
sensibly be introduced. Results would be available for full scrutiny and
made available to inform the consultation process.
3.2 Richard Samuel stated that he
had received the letter by e-mail the previous day. Thanet District Council
did not intend to establish a position before carefully considering the
contents. The Council would try to take a balanced view of environmental and
economic implications but there was a need for discussion with Planestation.
Mr Samuel realised, however, that a statement would need to be made by the end
of that week, when the new schedule would be published.
3.3 During questions and
discussion that followed, various points/suggestions were made:
3.3.1 TDC would not consult on the issue of night flights
3.3.2 Members present could not give the views of their electorate
without being given time to consult
3.3.3 There was concern at the lack of consultation due to a decision
being needed within two days
3.3.4 the Night Flying policy must be restricted to EUjet only
3.3.5 time for consultations must be allowed on time changes
3.3.6 installation of equipment to ensure strict adherence to routes
should be treated as a matter of urgency – not 3-4 years ahead
3.3.7 aircraft deviating from specified routes should be subject to
fines
3.3.8 EUjet should raise the ticket price on late flights, the
difference donated to organisations for the elderly, who would suffer more
.from night disturbance
3.3.9 the night arrivals were essential in order to get the EUjet
fleet back to home base
3.3.10 there was not likely to be any call for night flights during
winter months
3.3.11 whilst EUjet flights were considerably less noisy than
freighters, it should be remembered that disturbance would be greater during
the Summer when windows were often open
3.3.12 were these night flights to be agreed to, EUjet may ask for
more next time round
3.3.13 there was no point in asking the meeting for views, as the
flight slots had already been arranged
3.3.14 The late flights Monday – Thursday were not as contentious
as those scheduled for weekends including Sundays.
3.3.15 The policy be agreed for a trial period only
3.4 The Chairman pointed out that
MACC had no power over the decision. TDC had said there would be full
consultation regarding renegotiation of the S106 Agreement, but there would be
no consultation on the issue of night flights. The subject was one of the most
important parts of the S106 Agreement, and he would hope that the Council
would listen to, and take note of views expressed.
3.5 The Chairman said the
situation had taken everybody by surprise, including Planestation. In
responding, TDC would have to balance the added disturbance the flights would
cause to central Ramsgate against economic factors.
3.6 Members were invited to e
mail their comments to Richard Samuel (CE Thanet District Council) by midday
the following day. Mr Samuel had found the discussion and points raised very
helpful.
3.7 The Chairman concluded by
saying there would be no point bringing forward the date of the next MACC
meeting, as the decision on the summer night flights would have been made. As
the subject formed an important section of the S106 agreement, the
consultation process of the renegotiation of that agreement would be the main
item on the March Agenda.
3.8 In response to Cllr John
Bragg, Paul Tipple said Planestation did not see the reported possible
expansion of Lydd Airport as a threat. Great concern had been expressed by
CPRE and other bodies particularly with regard to the need for extension of
the runway at Lydd. Mr Tipple felt that the lack of infrastructure made
expansion unlikely.
4. PLANESTATION – Company finances
4.1 Tony Freudmann said an announcement to the SE media would
be made at 7am Thursday 16th December, followed by a press
conference to be held at 10.30am Friday 17 December.
5. REVIEW OF COMPLAINTS PROCEDURE
5.1 The Chairman reported on a
special sub-group meeting held on 7 December 2004, between representatives of
Planestation and of the airport management, and a selection of community
representatives who had shown most interest in the subject.
5.2 It had been agreed that the
following improvements be investigated:
5.2.1 Entry into Council/Parish
council directories and websites
5.2.2 A block Airport advertisement in Yellow Pages to include the
complaints line number.
5.2.3 Working hours during which calls were answered live were to be
extended.
5.2.4 Digital message recording, which would improve reliability, was
currently under investigation.
5.2.5 Better arrangements would be made to ensure continuity during
staff absence, and a taped response should a backlog arise.
5.2.6 Terms of letters of response to complaints would be reviewed
and improved.
5.3 Alastair Robertson had found
the meeting useful and felt that more had been achieved in less formal
surroundings than in full committee.
5.4 The Chairman thought it
would be useful to review the system on an annual basis and he hoped that the
measures proposed would improve current arrangements. ACTION TMS
6. SECTION 106 AGREEMENT
RENEGOTIATION
6.1 Brian White confirmed that
the consultation process would start in January 2005. He stressed that the
Council had been adamant that the existing S106 Agreement would form the
basis of the public consultation, and that technical consultants would be
employed. Issues would, in the first instance, be identified in a national
and regional context. As the Agreement was between Planestation and TDC, it
was necessary for those two parties to agree on the issues that would go out
to consultation.
6.2 Views would be sought from public and stakeholder groups,
including adjoining District, County and local Councils, community groups
and MACC, on how those issues could be addressed.
6.3 The Chairman pointed out that the consultation would be well
under way by the time of the March meeting of MACC. Dennis Hart hoped that
the Chairman would bring forward the next MACC meeting to enable proper
consultation to take place.
6.4 Brian White agreed to inform MACC of the proposed timescale, and
agreed to circulate the format of the consultation questionnaire when this
had been received from the consultants. ACTION BW
7. AIRPORT STATISTICS
7.1 Complaints : Alastair Robertson
reported that the number of forms and complaints received showed an increase
over the same period in the previous year, although the number of individual
complainants had reduced.
7.1.1 The incident attracting most
complaints had been an EUjet training flight on 28th October. EUjet
departures between 0600 and 0700 had also attracted several complaints.
7.2 Departures Summary/Runway Utilisation: Alastair
Robertson reported that the 70%/30% target had been missed by a small margin.
7.3 Section 106 Compliancy Report:
Movements between 2300-0700: There had been 2 HM Coastguard flights in August.
There had been 57 movements during September, 63 in October, all except four
being EUjet departures. The September/October figures for heavy departures
reflected the decrease in MK operations. Two Air Africa International freighters
had arrived before 0700, attracting fines of £1,000 each.
8. Section 106 Compliancy
8.1 Noise Monitor readings
8.1.1 Paul Tipple said the
readings clearly showed the point at which MK Airlines had ceased operating
from Manston.
8.1.2 It was noted that one particular EUjet aircraft had, on more than
one occasion, generated considerably higher level of noise than similar
aircraft. Mr Tipple and Alastair Robertson would discuss this with airline
operators in addition to the fact that some aircraft were flying off route,
particularly on departure.
8.1.3 The St Nicholas monitor showed abnormally high readings for
August, which were under investigation. The result would be sent to the
Secretary for circulation. ACTION PT
8.1.4 Paul Martin (TDC) reported that the mobile noise monitor was to be
located in central Ramsgate from December 04–May 05 to replicate the offset
position from the centre line of the western fixed monitor. This would allow
comparison and correction of noise readings from the western fixed monitor.
8.1.5 It was proposed for 2006 to site the mobile monitor in North
Cliffsend to provide additional resolution of noise levels given that this was
a relatively high exposure area subject to some noise insulation assistance.
8.1.6 All data would focus on Single Event Level to identify aircraft
above ambient and traffic levels. Locations would need to be acoustically
suitable, risk assessed for access purposes, have a suitable power supply, be
away from high ambient levels, secure, and permitted by the landowners
concerned.
8.1.7 The Chairman noted that the Mobile Monitor Location Plan did not
include a site in Monkton. Nick Cole had been requesting such a siting for two
years to confirm that despite assurances to the contrary, aircraft were still
overflying the village.
8.2 Pollution Monitoring
8.2.1 Paul Martin reported levels
well within Government and WHO Air Quality Objectives.
8.2.2 In the short term, no increase in pollution levels had yet been
registered since the introduction of EUjet flights.
8.2.3 Mr Martin agreed to a request from Malcolm Kirkaldie to provide
an annual analysis to enable monitoring of any increase in levels due to
increased air traffic. The increase in the level of nitrogen dioxide in
October had been due to atmospheric conditions prevailing at the time,
preventing the nitrogen dioxide from dispersing.
9. AIRPORT COMMUNITY FUND
9.1 The Chairman stated that the
Fund group had, since March 2003, dispensed £19,700 in grants of up to £500
for various local causes around Thanet and the Herne Bay area who were also
affected by air movements. There was currently a balance of £28,000 in the
Fund, most of which was part of the money paid in fines in respect of the
aircraft flying last autumn to Iraq carrying the new Iraqi currency. This
balance provided resources to exceed the normal project limit of £500, should
a suitable major sustainable project be found.
9.2 Malcolm Kirkaldie suggested
contributing towards the development of the disused Hoverport site. Richard
Samuel reported on the project under development by the National Trust,
following a recent contaminated land survey. Thanet District Council would
like to see the land returned to natural use and various ideas were being
explored. East Kent Partnership had provided funding for some of this work.
However, Mr Samuel did not feel that the project was suitable for the Airport
Community Fund, and that sufficient public funding would be available
9.3 Paul Tipple was keen to
help voluntary organisations with transporting local children to playing
fields.
9.4 The Chairman reported that
the Fund Group would hold a short meeting at the end of proceedings where
these matters would be further discussed.
10. ANY OTHER BUSINESS
10.1 Gerry Glover had expressed his thanks for the good wishes
of the Committee and hoped to be able to attend the next meeting.
11. DATE of NEXT MEETING
11.1 The Secretary would negotiate dates convenient for a
meeting in early March. The Chairman said there was no point bringing the date
forward as consultation could take place in the context of renewal of the S106
Agreement.
11.2 An alternative venue needed to be found, mainly due to
poor acoustics in Manston Village Hall
11.3 Members would be advised as soon as possible.
There being no further business, the meeting closed at
4.30pm
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