KENT INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE (K.I.A.C.C.)

MEETING 12th October 14.00 Thanet District Council Cecil Street Margate

Present:            Richard Samuel         Acting Chairman
                       
Lindsey Robinson      Secretary
                       
Brian White              Thanet District Council
                       
Paul Martin               Thanet District Council                            
                       
Phill Vann                 Infratil
                       
Roland Gunn             Infratil

                       
Andrew Hughes        Infratil
                       
Sandra Hooper          Dover
Parishes
                       
John Garland             Birchington Parish Council

                       
Bernard Clayson        St. Nicholas Parish Council
                       
John Fullarton            Kent
County Council
                       
Jim Mannering           Cliffsend Residents Association
                       
Gerry Glover              Minster Parish Council
                       
Malcolm Kirkaldie      Manston Airport Group
                       
Roger Latchford         Thanet District Council
                       
Nicholas Cole             Monkton Parish Council
                       
Michael Roberts         Thanet District Council

APOLOGIES AND WELCOME

                        Apologies for absence were received from:

                         Graham Murfet            Transport & General Workers Union
                         Ronald Flaherty          
Canterbury City Council
                         Alan Marsh                 

1.0       MINUTES

1.1       The minutes of the meeting held on the 17th July 2006 have been circulated, were accepted and signed by the Chairman as a true record.

2.0       MATTERS ARISING

2.1       Chairman asked that point 5. of the Agenda be held at the end of the meeting – all agreed.

2.2       3.4 of previous minutes was raised. By Cllr. Ronald Flaherty in his absence for an amendment to the minutes of the following:-

"Several Members, although they had not questioned the accuracy of the minutes under 1.0 and 2.0 did not recall that a selection process had been agreed at the 7 March Meeting. Indeed only the intention to advertise for a Chair had been agreed. Pressed to a vote only one member of the 17 KIACC Members present recalled that a process of selection as previously outlined by the chairman had been agreed at the March meeting."

The Chairman produced a transcript (Appendix 1) of this meeting as the previous secretary recorded all KIACC minutes, with which the transcript recorded discussion to the nature that it concurred with the minutes, chairman felt that it was not appropriate to amend the minutes, committee members agreed to move on.

2.3              Point 2.5 was raised by the MAG Representative; that the information had not been received. Brian White advised that there was some confusion as to this information and that the South East plan was very large however the website link to be distributed. www.southeast-ra.gov.uk

2.4       7.3 was raised, Chairman advised that once the new chairman had been appointed this could be part of the Agenda, ongoing.

2.5       9.1 was raised by the MAG Representative, the Chairman again advised that the CAA guide lines do not cover property and this issue should be solved at  a local level and to not lose site of this.

2.6       Point 10.0 raised, once the new chairman had been elected, meetings dates for next year to be set in advance, MAG representative asked that more notification of meetings. Chairman advised that due to the presentation of the 2 potential chairman’s the date of this meeting had been substantially harder to Agenda.           

2.7       Raised by MAG Representative, that on the print of the last minutes there was the initial BJW he asked that this be clarified who this was. Brian White advised that due to the secretary being new to the position the minutes had been corrected by him;  that was why they showed his initials.  He had been assisting a new colleague, and he noted that the minutes had just been agreed.

3.0       AIRPORT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT

3.1       Business to date

3.1.1    Phill Vann reported that this current summer schedule was drawing to a close and that throughout the winter season there would be forums taking place for BD.

3.1.2    Freight remained the same with movements from MK, DAS Air Cargo and Egypt Air.

4.2       New Business

4.2.1    Passenger: Kent Escapes have launched next years summer programme with routes to Faro, Alicante & Palma .

4.2.2    Cosmos have also launched their service for Summer 2007 to Virginia , USA

  4.2.3    Freight - Ref: 3.1.2  – Negotiations ongoing to increase movements from Egypt Air, with MK looking to introduce exports.

4.3       Other Business

            4.3.1    Chairman invited any questions

 4.3.2    MAG Representative asked if Infratil or the Council had commissioned a report through a consultancy at Cosmos.  Kent County Council was said to have commissioned this report, and the MAG representative said he would copy details to those interested.

 4.3.3    Committee questioned that many vehicles that pick up freight from the airport for delivery were foreign registered and not local businesses; Phill Vann advised that the airline is responsible for its loading and delivering.

4.3.4    Monkton Representative asked in reference to the old MK stored at the airport, advised that this particular DL8 was originally KLM first aircraft and there was discussions in place for this to be moved and used as part of KLM museum.

4.3.5    MAG Representative raised the question in respect to a Fuel Farm depot being built at the airport, Phill Vann responded that the airport development progress would be dependent on this and could be on the agenda in the future.

 4.3.6    Question raised by the MAG Representative, in regards to the discharge pipe running to Pegwell Bay , Roland Gunn advised that there was a survey being carried out by a consultant into this matter and that discussion had taken place with the environmental agency, with a time scale of 3 months to investigate.

 5.0       AIRPORT STATISTICS

5.1       See Appendix 2 - the Chairman invited questions and answers.

5.2       Committee member Mr Kirkaldie requested that the Stats be communicated to the committee before the meeting; Phill Vann agreed and would endeavour to complete this.

6.0       NOISE AND AIR QUALITY MONITORING

 6.1       See Appendix 3 - Chairman invited Roland Gunn to update on the noise monitoring, and Paul Martin to update on Air Quality.

 6.2       Roland Gunn advised that the new monitoring equipment was to be put in place at the St Nicholas at Wade site, however due to certain difficulties this had not been successful and the Engineers were on site today to rectify this problem.

 6.3       Chairman invited questions from the Committee.

 6.3.1  Committee Member felt that the St. Nicholas at Wade noise monitoring system was not on route, and consideration should be taken for the traffic noise from this area.

            Roland Gunn advised that the new high tech equipment would screen out all background noise; he could not comment on the problem with St. Nicholas monitor not being en route as the system was being put on the same site as before.  Paul Martin responded that this was due to land ownership rights.

 6.3.2    Monkton Representative, felt that the St. Nicholas system was useless  and should be positioned under the actual aircraft route.

            Paul Martin advised that the new noise monitoring system was more advanced than at similar airports, and that he was satisfied with this location.

 6.3.3    The question was raised that when the mobile unit becomes available if this could be placed nearer Monkton;  it would corroborate readings from the two fixed monitoring points. Paul Martin responded that the system was not mobile as such.  Brian White then added that, as per the 106 agreement and the mind of Infratil and the Council, a mobile monitor to supplement and check the two fixed units is needed.

 6.4       The Chairman raised the position of the Radar, Phill Vann invited Roland Gunn & Andrew Hughes into the discussion.

 6.4.1    Roland Gunn responded that the new parts for the Radar would arrive on the 23rd October 2006 , this would then be put through a safety case from the 28th October until approximately the 5th December.

 6.4.2    The question was raised on which part of the Radar was not working.

  Andrew Hughes advised that because of the lighting strike it was the Electrical Components that had been damaged.          

 6.4.3    The point was raised if there was a long term plan for new radar to be put in, Roland Gunn advised that the parts going into the Radar were very modern with a new digital system.

 7.0       SECTION 106 RENEGOTIATION

 7.1       Chairman invited Brian White to update.

 7.1.1    Brian White confirmed that the 1988 agreement was being sourced however nothing confirmed to report.

 7.1.2    MAG Representative felt that the renegotiation had been a long time coming and that the committee would like to propose something in black & white for the next meeting.

 7.1.3    The Chairman responded that the existing 106 agreement was still in place and that the volume of traffic for obvious reasons had changed over the last year and Infratil priorities were to develop the airport.

 7.1.4    Brian White agreed with these comments and continued that due to the movements of the airport there is no urgency to develop and to understand this.

 8.0       AIRPORT COMMUNITY TRUST FUND

 8.1       Due to an out of hours movement there was a further £1000.00 in the Fund.

 9.0       ANY OTHER BUSINESS/DATE OF NEXT MEETING

9.1       See Reference 2.6 above

9.2       Phill Vann , requested that when personal correspondence from the airport is requested, that personnel be patient as sometimes individual managers are not always in work and may be away on business.

10.0     POSITION OF CHAIRMAN

10.1     Chairman explained the process of the selection for the chairman then invited both applicants, Mr Paul Twyman & Mr. Barry Coppock to separately give the committee a presentation with questions after.

10.2     Having heard both presentations the chairman invited all committee personnel to express their views, the chairman then decided that the decision should go to a vote and all agreed on an open vote.

10.3     The decisions was made at:-

Seven Votes for Mr. Paul Twyman;
Four Votes for Mr. Barry Coppock (Including 1 proxy vote);

 Mr Paul Twyman was elected as Chairman.

 10.4     John Fullarton, on behalf of the Committee, thanked Mr Richard Samuel for his hard work as Chairman during this transition period.

 

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